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Beitrag von JaBoG32_Laud » 30. Nov 2005, 15:20

Poor little Opossum! It will never be playing the Banjo again! :lol:
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Beitrag von Callisto » 30. Nov 2005, 20:31

Das Foto in meinem letzten Posting stammt aus der Rubrik "not my job" ;-)

... und hier noch ein bischen Futter zur visionären Anregung aller, wie FS2004 mit 3 Monitoren panoramatechnisch daherkommt... :D

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Die Imagebreite hat den Thread versaut fand ich, daher nun URL statt IMG.
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Beitrag von MightyM » 30. Nov 2005, 21:17

Hi,

hab vieleicht eine neue Anregung zum Thema "3-Monitore benötigen 2 Grafikkarten" (mal von der Matrox-Karte abgesehen). Es gab mal 6600 Karten bei denen 2 Cips auf einer Karte verbaut waren (interner SLI). Daran konnte man 4 Monitore betreiben. [url=http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/produ ... JBXV01&bvz]Hier[/urlbvz] hab ich was gefunden was den Anschein erweckt das diese Konzep auch in Zukunft weiterverfolgt wird.

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Beitrag von Woodstock » 2. Dez 2005, 00:19

[quoter1p][quoter1p]Hi Dmut,

I have a pretty dedicated question on this topic.
After having read I guess almost everything on multi monitor support in flight simulators,
I ran across the ability of LockOn to use this feature with a Matrox Parhelia Card on three monitors simultaneously.

Now that this graphic card is not a high end one, so I envisioned the posibility (and a strong wish as well) to run LockOn on a computer with two graphic cards on three TFTs (2xPCIe or mixed 1xAGP+1xPCIe) under Windows XP span mode (w/ latest nvidia drivers).

I could already test LockOn using two monitors with a single GF6800GT in span mode and it worked perfectly.
Even more, LockOn´s graphic options showed me dual as well as *triple* monitor resolutions though there were only two monitors connected on a single graphics card.

To melt it down to the point finally my question:

Does the LockOn engine support triple monitors using two graphic cards?

Thanks for any contributions on this subject and kindest regards.

Yours,

JaBoG32_Woodstock[/quoter1p]

nope, LO don't have any "special" support for such solutions. Its up to DirectX, graphic card and monitors to support such configurations or not.[/quoter1p]

[quoter1p][quoter1p]Thank you very much for the info!

So the 3-monitor-resolution that LO offers in it´s graphic options was programmed for Matrox Parhelia cards only?[/quoter1p]

yes, until other hardware vendors will release another 3-monitors-solutions, or Microsoft will allow DirectX to be executed on multiple monitors without changes on application level.[/quoter1p]

[quoter1p][quoter1p]Hi Han,

I have a pretty dedicated question on this topic.
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Does the LockOn engine support triple monitors using two graphic cards?

Thanks for any contributions on this subject and kindest regards.

Yours,
JaBoG32_Woodstock[/quoter1p]
Hello,
Unfortunally not. May be in future

Best regards,
Tuseyev Daniel
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Beitrag von Callisto » 3. Dez 2005, 17:22

Subject: Re: LockOn on three monitors?
Date: Samstag, 3. Dezember 2005 16:53
From: "bigger1" <bigger1@mchsi.com>

Hi Peter,

When it comes to multi-monitor gaming, the game itself has to be created in a way that can utilize it. Unfortunately, not many games are written this way. I believe (not an owner myself) that the Matrox Parhelia card along with its Apptimizer utility has been able to trick some games into multi-monitor resolutions. Because some games listed on their web site (https://www.matrox.com/mga/3d_gaming/surrgame.cfm) I was unable to get working. on my system. (ex: The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind) My Nvidia based system can play the games shown on my site, but not very well (performance wise) And I had to use such low resolutions for them (640x480-16, 800x600-16,) and all bells & whistles turned off. When you blow that size up to my monitors 48" x 12" screen just 24" from your face, the game kind-a resembled the look of original Nintendo. (very disappointing.....:(

The reason I mention this is- you mention LockOn having more graphic requirements than the Parhelia card can handle. I agree that the Matrox card seemed low on ability to me on paper, But I can't recall ever hearing of anyone that has one complaining about their Parhelia cards. (and I know a place where there are a-lot of owners)
(https://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/g ... =false&mon
=desc)

I appreciated the offer of the game for trial. (and it was the thought that counted)But, I went ahead and downloaded the Demo for that.238 Mb-Whew! even on broadband it took over an hour and a half.Unfortunately, I was not able to get the game above 1280x1024-32 (1 screenonly)The game would run in "windowed mode", which was promising.But when I adj. the config file, the game just wouldn't display-it was stillrunningjust nothing on the screen.Plus-even if I was able to get it across all 3, 800x600-16 @ 2400x600-16with all the extras turned off would probably be the best I could I have achieved anyway.Sorry, and good luck.....JB----- Original Message


[b0rj] klingt nicht so erfolgversprechend also....

ich frage mich noch, ob die demo, die er da gezogen hat, technisch dem 1.11 stand oder noch 1.02 niveau entspricht.... aber ehrlich gesagt, schwindet meine hoffnung nun schon ein wenig, dass ein triple monitor setup (außer mit "schwacher" parhelia) funktioniert. werde wohl nochmal matrox benchmarks suchen.

warum er allerdings lockon nicht mal auf nur 2 monitore verteilen konnte, hat mich zunächst gewundert, denn das habe ich ja schon mit meiner gf6800geschafft. vermutlich liegt es daran, dass ich den test nur mit einer einzelnen grafik karte gemacht habe,.... mal sehen was unser scotsman naechste woche herausfindet....

Sieht fast so aus, als würde Weihnachten für Calli dieses Jahr "ausfallen" :roll: [/b0rj]

-----From: "PL" <webmaster@leuders.de>To: <bigger1@mchsi.com>;
<woodstock@virtual-jabog32.de>Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:55
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> Hi Jeff Bigger,
>
> I ran across your website while searching for multi monitor
> setups for gami ng. I specially looked for possibilites to run
> flight simulators on this kind of setup. Now I learned from
> your webpage how to config several games to make them work
> on three displays using two graphic cards. As I expected
> FS2004 from Microsoft directly supports this kind of configuration.
>
> Unfortunately after checked the (whole) web for two weeks now I
> did not found any information about the flight simulation "Lock On"
> using three or more monitors with more than one graphic card.
>
> The only solution which is proven and tested is with a single
> Matrox Parhelia card, which directly supports three displays.
> But this card is quite a poor performer regarding 3D
> acceleration and therefore not feasible for being used with
> LockOn which is a highly hardware demanding application.
>
> Now my question: Do you see a chance to install and test the
> simulation LockOn on your rig to check if this game is capable
> of supporting a two card w/ three displays configuration?
>
> I plan to buy suc h a system but would highly appreciate
> knowing a proven test of this game explicitly before spend so
> much money on this. If you dont have the game I would
> suggest to purchase it for you, so you can perform the test.
>
> Thank you very much for any contribution on this and
> kindest regards,
>
> Peter

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Beitrag von Chrissi » 4. Dez 2005, 11:51

Hmm...

Aber was er mit dem Windowed Mode erzählt klingt doch schonmal ganz gut, oder?

Schließlich kannst du normale Fenster auch über 3 Monitore hinweg ziehen ;)

Und nachdem man Lock ON sogar als 16:9 laufen lassen kann, sollts doch genauso auch mit anderen Verhältnissen klappen. Du musst das im Prinzip nur so konfigurieren, dass dein Desktop über 3 Monitore dargestellt wird (wie das geht weis Ich leider nicht; Habs aber schon zu Genüge bei Bekannten gesehen) und dann startet ja Lock ON genauso über die 3 Monitore hinweg, imho :)
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Beitrag von Callisto » 5. Dez 2005, 18:21

[quotev29]Hi Peter,

Your experiment is very accurate of how I tried it last time. I have 3x1280x1024 lcd @ 3840x1024 and started game in window mode. I then went to options to see my selection options. your options here are from 1024x768 thru 1280x1024 (no multi-monitor sizes available) Since that turned into a dead end. I then went to the graphics config file and manually changed 1280x1024 to 3840x1024.
I made sure window mode was on. Then, when I started the game- it seem to be running fine,just nothing on the screens. (desktop)
It was like it was minimized, but it wasn't. I verified I could change the rez by editing this file. I attached a copy of the config.

Later
JB
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So (naheliegend wie wir mutmaßen) funktioniert es also nachweislich nicht.... eine Sache verwundert mich allerdings an seinem Statement: wenn ich hier bei mir zwei Monitore an meine GF68GT hänge, zeigt mir Lockon neben den Standardauflösungen auch sehr wohl verschiedene Auflösungen für Dual und Triple Monitor Betrieb an. Bei ihm scheinbar nicht. Ich weiß, dass er (nur) die LockOn Demo anstelle der Vollversion gezogen hat und vermute daher, dass die Demo ggf. nur eingeschränkte Optionen anbietet bzw. die Demo nicht den vollen Funktionsumfang des letzten Patches 1.11 beinhaltet. Was meint ihr?
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Beitrag von JaBoG32_Laud » 5. Dez 2005, 18:32

Also bei deinen geplanten Investitionen kannst ja mal überlegen, ob du ihm, wenn du ohne seine Hilfe nicht voran kommst, ne Vollversion "spendierst". LockOn 1.0 kostet ja immerhin nur noch 10€ + 30€ für FC.
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Beitrag von Woodstock » 5. Dez 2005, 18:34

Ich nehm an, es liegt entweder am mangelnden Support durch die Demo oder am Windowed Mode.
Wenn ich mich richtig entsinne, hattest Du Calli ja mit Fullscreen experimentiert...
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